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Omega2+ Reboot Fix [Official Solution]



  • I'd like to test this. I'm motivated as I have field deployed units that will fail, making me very unpopular with my client.

    I probably have all of the test equipment required to create an automated test that could execute tens of thousands of test permutations with no human in the loop.

    Do any of the Onioneers have any interest in collaborating with me in creating a test plan and test procedure, perhaps writing a few lines of code, etc.? My up front view is to do it in public view on this forum, unless our friends at Onion suggest otherwise. If the latter, we'd collaborate in some other fashion.

    Anyone interested?

    --Bill


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    @William Scott

    We are happy to collaborate in coming up with an automated tests procedure. Doing it publicly here on the community is definitely the way to go. This way more people can contribute of rip the benefit of the test result.

    Can you share what test setup you have in mind and specifically what input do you need from Onion side?



  • @Zheng-Han I have some loose ideas that go back to doing qualification testing on avionics systems. In general. designing a circuit including some automatic test equipment that will cause brownouts. Aircraft are notoriously dirty with respect to power. Avionics systems must be able to survive in a nasty electrical environment.

    In avionics (e.g. DO-160 or MIL-STD-810) brownouts are defined as percent reduction from defined power supply over a time window. For example, 40% below 5vdc (or 3.3vdc) for 150 milliseconds. I'd like to design a test that would, in repeatable fashion, allow us to test system survivability over a broad spectrum of voltage levels and outage periods.

    I invite the community to participate in defining what those test parameters would be. That would probably be a good next step.

    --Bill



  • I've created a new thread for the validation of the fix as I believe it will have a life of its own. This will allow the community to keep this thread brief and to the point. The new thread is at --> http://community.onion.io/topic/3062/analysis-and-test-of-omega2-reboot-fix-official-solution

    --Bill



  • @Zheng-Han I tried your "Official Solution" to fix the 3 Byte / 4 Byte flash problem of Omega2+ with FW v0.2.0 b192.

    Good News

    • After more than two years you are finally trying to do something about this problem.

    • What was working up until now still seems to be working:

      • Power On - cold boot - Success
      • short or long press the FW_RST button - warm boot - Success
      • reboot, firstboot - warm boot - Success

    Bad News

    • During this two years there was no official announcement (confession 😉

    Dear Omega2+ Customers,

    We are very sorry the Winbond 25Q256FV / Macronix MX25L25635E 32MB flash chip was an especially bad choice.
    Each Omega2+ ab ovo has a HW bug (a factory fault) because of this.
    Our plan is the following...

    • What wasn't working up until now still seems faulty
      • press the HW_RST button - cold boot - Fail
      • kernel panic - warm boot - Fail
        for example with the MediaTek WiFi driver up to FW v0.1.10 b160

    [ 28.858759] Kernel panic - not syncing: stack-protector: Kernel stack is corrupted in: 8701d944
    [ 28.858759]
    [ 28.872523] Rebooting in 3 seconds..


    about brownout

    @Zheng-Han wrote

    During an unexpected reset (brownout) the CPU resets but ...

    Why do you think so?
    Brownout is a power supply related unwanted event - it is not a reset.
    If I know well neither the MT7688A SoC has got internal brownout detector / circuit
    nor the Omega2+ board has got any device / circuit to reset the CPU during or after a brownout.
    Correct me if I'm wrong please.

    You should specify what does brownout and unexpected reset mean for you.
    Although your reasoning, some of your conclusions are not entirely clear for me I'll try to test your whole theory.


    about GPIO 11

    @Zheng-Han wrote

    During boot the boot loader sets GPIO 11 High (Originally used to provide power to the user pushbutton on Omega2 docks)

    There are no such Omega2 Docks. Please show us a planned schematic about that user pushbutton.

    What do you think about my thought:
    0_1533403071083_Expansion Headers.png
    There are I2C level shifters on the OLED Expansion and the PWM / Servo Expansion:
    0_1533403107110_PWM Expansion.png
    VDD25 ie. 2.5V (or 3.3V of the GPIO11 OUTPUT HIGH) is the power supply of the lower voltage section - the circuit does not work without it.



  • @Zheng-Han Sorry, I think your circuit is not necessary.
    The warm boot is not depend on the state of GPIO 6 (SPI CS1) - the default config is perfect.

    @Zheng-Han wrote

    During an unexpected reset or hot boot, the capacitor will temporarily pull GPIO 6 High setting the CPU to boot from a 4 Byte address mode

    GPIO 6 (SPI CS1) default config / default state - internal pulldown

    
       Ω-ware: 0.2.0 b194
     -----------------------------------------------------
    root@Omega-5BE1:/# reboot
    root@Omega-5BE1:/# [ 8102.452960] br-wlan: port 1(ra0) entered disabled state
    [ 8102.473391] device ra0 left promiscuous mode
    [ 8102.477842] br-wlan: port 1(ra0) entered disabled state
    [ 8106.781266] Removing MTD device #6 (rootfs_data) with use count 1
    [ 8106.810481] reboot: Restarting system
    
    
       ____       _             ____
      / __ \___  (_)__  ___    / __ \__ _  ___ ___ ____ _
     / /_/ / _ \/ / _ \/ _ \  / /_/ /  ' \/ -_) _ `/ _ `/
     \____/_//_/_/\___/_//_/  \____/_/_/_/\__/\_, /\_,_/
     W H A T  W I L L  Y O U  I N V E N T ? /___/"
    
    Board: Onion Omega2 APSoC DRAM:  128 MB
    relocate_code Pointer at: 87f60000
    ******************************
    Software System Reset Occurred
    ******************************
    flash manufacture id: c2, device id 20 19
    find flash: MX25L25635E
    ============================================
    Onion Omega2 UBoot Version: 4.3.0.3
    --------------------------------------------
    ASIC 7628_MP (Port5<->None)
    DRAM component: 1024 Mbits DDR, width 16
    DRAM bus: 16 bit
    Total memory: 128 MBytes
    Flash component: SPI Flash
    Date:Oct 18 2016  Time:17:29:05
    ============================================
    icache: sets:512, ways:4, linesz:32 ,total:65536
    dcache: sets:256, ways:4, linesz:32 ,total:32768
    CPU freq = 575 MHZ
    Estimated memory size = 128 Mbytes
    Resetting MT7628 PHY.
    Initializing MT7688 GPIO system.
    
    
    **************************************
    * Hold Reset button for more options *
    **************************************
    
    
    
    Boot Linux from Flash NO RESET PRESSED.
    ## Booting image at bc050000 ...
       Image Name:   MIPS LEDE Linux-4.4.74
       Image Type:   MIPS Linux Kernel Image (lzma compressed)
       Data Size:    1341905 Bytes =  1.3 MB
       Load Address: 80000000
       Entry Point:  80000000
       Verifying Checksum ... OK
       Uncompressing Kernel Image ... OK
    No initrd
    ## Transferring control to Linux (at address 80000000) ...
    ## Giving linux memsize in MB, 128
    
    Starting kernel ...
    
    [    0.000000] Linux version 4.4.74 (root@3fbe4dcb626f) (gcc version 5.4.0 (LEDE GCC 5.4.0 r3484-d8f14ba) ) #0 Tue Jul 31 16:32:08 2018
    

    GPIO 6 (SPI CS1) Reboot Fix the [Official Solution]

    
       Ω-ware: 0.2.0 b194
     -----------------------------------------------------
    root@Omega-5BE1:/# reboot
    root@Omega-5BE1:/# [   65.628024] br-wlan: port 1(ra0) entered disabled state
    [   65.651352] device ra0 left promiscuous mode
    [   65.655871] br-wlan: port 1(ra0) entered disabled state
    [   69.967037] Removing MTD device #6 (rootfs_data) with use count 1
    [   69.996395] reboot: Restarting system
    
    
       ____       _             ____
      / __ \___  (_)__  ___    / __ \__ _  ___ ___ ____ _
     / /_/ / _ \/ / _ \/ _ \  / /_/ /  ' \/ -_) _ `/ _ `/
     \____/_//_/_/\___/_//_/  \____/_/_/_/\__/\_, /\_,_/
     W H A T  W I L L  Y O U  I N V E N T ? /___/"
    
    Board: Onion Omega2 APSoC DRAM:  128 MB
    relocate_code Pointer at: 87f60000
    ******************************
    Software System Reset Occurred
    ******************************
    flash manufacture id: c2, device id 20 19
    find flash: MX25L25635E
    ============================================
    Onion Omega2 UBoot Version: 4.3.0.3
    --------------------------------------------
    ASIC 7628_MP (Port5<->None)
    DRAM component: 1024 Mbits DDR, width 16
    DRAM bus: 16 bit   
    Total memory: 128 MBytes
    Flash component: SPI Flash
    Date:Oct 18 2016  Time:17:29:05
    ============================================
    icache: sets:512, ways:4, linesz:32 ,total:65536
    dcache: sets:256, ways:4, linesz:32 ,total:32768
    CPU freq = 575 MHZ 
    Estimated memory size = 128 Mbytes
    Resetting MT7628 PHY.
    Initializing MT7688 GPIO system.
    
    
    **************************************
    * Hold Reset button for more options *
    **************************************
    
    
    
    Boot Linux from Flash NO RESET PRESSED.
    ## Booting image at bc050000 ...
       Image Name:   MIPS LEDE Linux-4.4.74
       Image Type:   MIPS Linux Kernel Image (lzma compressed)
       Data Size:    1341905 Bytes =  1.3 MB
       Load Address: 80000000
       Entry Point:  80000000
       Verifying Checksum ... OK
       Uncompressing Kernel Image ... OK
    No initrd
    ## Transferring control to Linux (at address 80000000) ...
    ## Giving linux memsize in MB, 128
    
    Starting kernel ...
    
    [    0.000000] Linux version 4.4.74 (root@3fbe4dcb626f) (gcc version 5.4.0 (LEDE GCC 5.4.0 r3484-d8f14ba) ) #0 Tue Jul 31 16:32:08 2018
    

    GPIO 6 (SPI CS1) pulldown 1 kOhm to GND

    
       Ω-ware: 0.2.0 b194
     -----------------------------------------------------
    root@Omega-5BE1:/# reboot
    root@Omega-5BE1:/# [  623.732112] br-wlan: port 1(ra0) entered disabled state
    [  623.745535] device ra0 left promiscuous mode
    [  623.750045] br-wlan: port 1(ra0) entered disabled state
    [  628.070148] Removing MTD device #6 (rootfs_data) with use count 1
    [  628.099556] reboot: Restarting system
    
    
       ____       _             ____
      / __ \___  (_)__  ___    / __ \__ _  ___ ___ ____ _
     / /_/ / _ \/ / _ \/ _ \  / /_/ /  ' \/ -_) _ `/ _ `/
     \____/_//_/_/\___/_//_/  \____/_/_/_/\__/\_, /\_,_/
     W H A T  W I L L  Y O U  I N V E N T ? /___/"
    
    Board: Onion Omega2 APSoC DRAM:  128 MB
    relocate_code Pointer at: 87f60000
    ******************************
    Software System Reset Occurred
    ******************************
    flash manufacture id: c2, device id 20 19
    find flash: MX25L25635E
    ============================================
    Onion Omega2 UBoot Version: 4.3.0.3
    --------------------------------------------
    ASIC 7628_MP (Port5<->None)
    DRAM component: 1024 Mbits DDR, width 16
    DRAM bus: 16 bit   
    Total memory: 128 MBytes
    Flash component: SPI Flash
    Date:Oct 18 2016  Time:17:29:05
    ============================================
    icache: sets:512, ways:4, linesz:32 ,total:65536
    dcache: sets:256, ways:4, linesz:32 ,total:32768
    CPU freq = 575 MHZ 
    Estimated memory size = 128 Mbytes
    Resetting MT7628 PHY.
    Initializing MT7688 GPIO system.
    
    
    **************************************
    * Hold Reset button for more options *
    **************************************
    
    
    
    Boot Linux from Flash NO RESET PRESSED.
    ## Booting image at bc050000 ...
       Image Name:   MIPS LEDE Linux-4.4.74
       Image Type:   MIPS Linux Kernel Image (lzma compressed)
       Data Size:    1341905 Bytes =  1.3 MB
       Load Address: 80000000
       Entry Point:  80000000
       Verifying Checksum ... OK
       Uncompressing Kernel Image ... OK
    No initrd
    ## Transferring control to Linux (at address 80000000) ...
    ## Giving linux memsize in MB, 128
    
    Starting kernel ...
    
    [    0.000000] Linux version 4.4.74 (root@3fbe4dcb626f) (gcc version 5.4.0 (LEDE GCC 5.4.0 r3484-d8f14ba) ) #0 Tue Jul 31 16:32:08 2018
    

    GPIO 6 (SPI CS1) pullup 1 kOhm to 3.3V only for this test of course.

    
       Ω-ware: 0.2.0 b194
     -----------------------------------------------------
    root@Omega-5BE1:/# reboot
    root@Omega-5BE1:/# [  966.150735] br-wlan: port 1(ra0) entered disabled state
    [  966.168874] device ra0 left promiscuous mode
    [  966.173328] br-wlan: port 1(ra0) entered disabled state
    [  970.490053] Removing MTD device #6 (rootfs_data) with use count 1
    [  970.519287] reboot: Restarting system
    
    
       ____       _             ____
      / __ \___  (_)__  ___    / __ \__ _  ___ ___ ____ _
     / /_/ / _ \/ / _ \/ _ \  / /_/ /  ' \/ -_) _ `/ _ `/
     \____/_//_/_/\___/_//_/  \____/_/_/_/\__/\_, /\_,_/
     W H A T  W I L L  Y O U  I N V E N T ? /___/"
    
    Board: Onion Omega2 APSoC DRAM:  128 MB
    relocate_code Pointer at: 87f60000
    ******************************
    Software System Reset Occurred
    ******************************
    flash manufacture id: c2, device id 20 19
    find flash: MX25L25635E
    ============================================
    Onion Omega2 UBoot Version: 4.3.0.3
    --------------------------------------------
    ASIC 7628_MP (Port5<->None)
    DRAM component: 1024 Mbits DDR, width 16
    DRAM bus: 16 bit   
    Total memory: 128 MBytes
    Flash component: SPI Flash
    Date:Oct 18 2016  Time:17:29:05
    ============================================
    icache: sets:512, ways:4, linesz:32 ,total:65536
    dcache: sets:256, ways:4, linesz:32 ,total:32768
    CPU freq = 575 MHZ 
    Estimated memory size = 128 Mbytes
    Resetting MT7628 PHY.
    Initializing MT7688 GPIO system.
    
    
    **************************************
    * Hold Reset button for more options *
    **************************************
    
    
    
    Boot Linux from Flash NO RESET PRESSED.
    ## Booting image at bc050000 ...
       Image Name:   MIPS LEDE Linux-4.4.74
       Image Type:   MIPS Linux Kernel Image (lzma compressed)
       Data Size:    1341905 Bytes =  1.3 MB
       Load Address: 80000000
       Entry Point:  80000000
       Verifying Checksum ... OK
       Uncompressing Kernel Image ... OK
    No initrd
    ## Transferring control to Linux (at address 80000000) ...
    ## Giving linux memsize in MB, 128
    
    Starting kernel ...
    
    [    0.000000] Linux version 4.4.74 (root@3fbe4dcb626f) (gcc version 5.4.0 (LEDE GCC 5.4.0 r3484-d8f14ba) ) #0 Tue Jul 31 16:32:08 2018
    

    It's quite hard to reproduce your "large capacitor" test if you don't tell us any details 😉
    More tests - probably more to come...



  • My thoughts are as follows.

    1. Build a circuit in which the O2+ receives it's supply voltage through a FET.
    2. Downstream of the FET would be a voltage regulator (3.3 or 5v, whichever is being tested) to prevent an over voltage condition that may damage a part (I'ved killed approx five Expansion Docks by powering them via a laptop and uUSB cable!!!).
    3. Upstream of the FET would be the power supply.
    4. The gate of the FET would be attached to a function generator.
    5. The function generator would be set to provide a "pulse" of the test duration, allowing for some automation to get to many, many brown out duration variants.
    6. The non-pulsed input would allow for full input voltage. The negative pulse would be of sufficient magnitude to allow for various depths of the brown out. You could think of the ambient function generator output as proxy for the full input power supply and a pulse in the direction of 0 volts to be a proxy for the reduced input.
    7. This may lend itself to automation such that we could do "four corners" test with hundreds or even thousands of permutations.
    8. Of course a rebooting O2+ would be unavailable for another test run for over a minute, so let's not get too greedy on the "thousands" of test permutations.
    9. I may have the test equipment to do this (I think I do).

    Any comments or other ideas?

    --Bill



  • @William-Scott My bad - I wanted to post this in the new thread for validation. I'll copy/paste, so if you look at the other thread, this will look eerily similar.

    --Bill



  • I flashed a snapshot version of OpenWRT and I noticed that the reboot command doesn't work.
    Onion omega2+ stays in a like infinity loop and it doesn't respond until I perform power cycle.
    I also noticed that this bug has been solved in latest releases of onion firmware (Ω-ware).

    Is there anything I can do to solve this bug on OpenWRT branch?
    What is the official software solution for that?



  • A software fix for the unexpected reboot case is possible, at least for recently manufactured Omega2+ boards.

    The driver identifies the flash chip as a MX25L25635E, and Onion have provided the datasheet for the same. But this chip was was superseded by the MX25L25635F in 2012, and by the MX25L25645G in 2020. Both revisions included a process change, and Macronix deliberately retained the old JEDEC ID so that the new part could be a drop-in replacement, so I would find it surprising if E revision were still broadly available to manufacturers today. The F and G revisions support 4-byte opcodes, so the host can access memory beyond 16M while keeping the chip always in 3-byte address mode.

    I modified OpenWrt v19.07.7, which normally hangs on reboot, to select the F instead of the E chip, and installed it on an Omega2+ purchased in 2021. Reboots now work correctly, and yes, I confirmed that the upper part of the flash memory is accessible as well.

    So the first question is, do all the boards out there use the F chip or did earlier manufacturing runs get the E? Onion's fix to reset the address mode on shutdown relies on commands that are only documented in the F datasheet and not the E. So chances are good that it's been the F all along... but if somebody with older hardware could test, that would give more confidence than drawing conclusions from the absence of a command in the datasheet.

    The second question is can we upstream a fix into OpenWrt, which definitely needs to support the E chip on non-onion devices? Recall that we can't use the JEDEC ID to differentiate because the IDs are the same. The mainline kernel already handles this by looking at the Basic Flash Parameters Table. Unfortunately the driver in OpenWrt bales out before loading the BFPT because the SFDP signature from the chip reads as 0xFFFFFFFF instead of the magic value it expects. The latter problem also occurs on an Omega2S+ which has the completely different W25Q256 flash chip. So I think reading the flash parameters is just broken in OpenWrt, but there have been so many changes to the SPI NOR code in mainline since the 4.14 branch that I wasn't able to find a promising patch to backport.

    It's worth noting that some OpenWrt users fix this by naming a specific flash chip in their device tree config, rather than relying on the ambiguous JEDEC ID lookup. This isn't a good solution for Onion, however, because a single .bin file today is usable by the Omega2+ and Omega2S+, and hardcoding a name would require two separate builds.

    I'm going to fix my application by installing my patch into the target/linux/ramips/patches-4.14 directory of OpenWrt before builds. You may want to do the same, but do your own testing in case any boards with an E chip are out there which would break. Hopefully when OpenWrt moves to a 5.x kernel we can have a more general fix.


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